Post-Election Miscellany

Posted on November 9, 2006 at 14.43 by jns · Permalink
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  1. Written by S.W. Anderson
    on Friday, 10 November 2006 at 00.41
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    "I read something by a Democrat starting to worry that perhaps their winning majorities in both House and Senate is too good to be true. Perhaps it's all some really, really devious plan concocted by Rove and Bush and the others, but to what end he couldn't yet divine."

    A few years of steady losses, with someone like Rove setting strategy on the other side brings out the paranoid tendencies, all right.

    The obvious trap, were such deviousness truly at work here, is having to deal with the Iraq quagmire. From the GOP standpoint, the best of all domestic political outcomes is to have the Democrats engineer something that can be condemned as a premature withdrawal leading to chaos and an obscene bloodbath, followed by the emergence of a radical Islamic state in league with Iran.

    Then, the Republicans would spend the next 30 or 40 years beating Democrats up as the ones who lost Iraq and turned what had been a democratization trend into a retreat-and-defeat setback and source of humiliation.

  2. Written by S.W. Anderson
    on Friday, 10 November 2006 at 00.49
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    FWIW, I date the start of neoconservative Republican ascendency in national politics to the 1980 Reagan campaign. That's not just because Reagan won. Equally definitive were the vicious, anything-to-win strategy and tactics. It was all there, thanks to Roger Ailes and Lee Atwater: politics of personal destruction/demonizing the opposition, stealing the meaning of words, lying and dirty tricks.

    And to top it all off, there was the spectacular and treasonous humiliation of an already vanquished foe in the form of the unconscionable deal with Iran to release U.S. hostages just after Reagan was inaugurated. A candidate or even president-elect has no business dealing with a foreign power, most especially a hostile one.

    BTW, Jeff, this is one reason why I think in situations such as Iran's holding our embassy people hostage for months, the U.S. should declare war. Doesn't mean we have to send the B-52's over and then invade. It does set certain legal things in place, and puts people here and there on notice, though. In the case of the Reagan's foul dealing, I'm quite sure it would've been an impeachable offense, had he been a party to such a deal in wartime.

  3. Written by rightsaidfred
    on Friday, 10 November 2006 at 01.09
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    You have no objectivity with regards to Reagan. Your criticisms are petty compared to the measure of greatness Reagan brought to office.

  4. Written by jns
    on Saturday, 11 November 2006 at 13.54
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    I might give you the benefit of the doubt, Fred, and look at totaling the columns if only I could think of any measure of greatness whatsoever that Reagan brought to the office of President. The only thing I can come up with that makes Reagan look good is that he came between Nixon and the Bushes. Oh, and he grinned a lot.

  5. Written by rightsaidfred
    on Sunday, 12 November 2006 at 09.06
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    Reagan's greatness was in fostering national confidence and positivism. I suppose if one is emotionally committed to depression, negativity, and self hatred, Reagan was a supreme annoyance.

  6. Written by S.W. Anderson
    on Wednesday, 15 November 2006 at 03.50
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    RSF wrote:

    "Reagan's greatness was in fostering national confidence and positivism."

    Sounds like the political equivalent of Elavil, a mood elavator.

    And you know, the same could be said about Fidel Castro and Hugo Chavez in their respective countries.

  7. Written by rightsaidfred
    on Wednesday, 15 November 2006 at 09.12
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    Morale is something beyond what Elavil can deliver.

    I'll give a little nod to Castro and Chavez in this department, but there is a difference between national confidence in dealing with problems, and an ego driven attempt to satisfy a superiority complex.

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